The only supplemental book I’ve read is On The Origin of PCs, which I remember as being really really good.
Of the books that make up the comic proper, the best is probably Blood Runs In The Family (the one with Elan’s dad). The ending of that book does what the ending of Homestuck was trying to do, but two years earlier and in a far more satisfying manner.
I never said the comic should be taken down, just that the PA guys were kind of dickheads about the whole thing. They could have either apologized, defended it, or just ignored the criticism and let it blow over instead of bringing it up themselves every few years.
Like, not to nelabor the point, but if you think angrily pushing back because multiple people jumped directly to accusing them of having actually raped someone because “only rapists would find that funny” is being an asshole, I just don’t understand your worldview at all.
People accused me of transphobic language when I tagged a Questionable Content page with “the trappening”, but I never felt the need to “push back” on trans people. I considered their arguments, decided they were making a fair point, apologized, and removed the tag.I know some of the people who were originally upset with me were satisfied by this, and I’m sure some of the people who were upset with me were not satisfied with this and stopped following. We all moved on with our lives and I tried to be a little more thoughtful when discussing trans issues so I didn’t say something stupid again.
artists who release their art for free don’t have a responsibility to make sure it doesn’t hurt anyone, are you fucking mental? press the back button. find a different comic. don’t flip the fuck out and demand an apology and then carry a grudge forever when you don’t get it
Sure, lots of comics have difficult or challenging content. Sometimes it’s in the service of a really fucking good comic that wants to say important things about difficult issues.
Such as Drop Out’s discussion of mental illness, or take your pick of [Most “Great Literature” From School].
Sometimes it’s in the service of a stupid joke
The Homestuck epilogues have, um, a lot of this, like this segment of middle-aged Gamzee fucking teenage Vriska in a bush for shock value grossout comedy.
And the Homestuck epilogues got a lot more criticism, mostly because Homestuck’s this big huge corporate franchise but also because this stuff is really dumb and worthy of criticism. Much of the criticism is fair, and I think it’s a little cowardly of Andrew Hussie to hide behind his staff like he does, letting them take all the criticism why he poses with horses. There’s certainly an issue when people fire a massive hate mob at random teenagers making their first comics, but a major webcomic/gaming corporation making rape jokes isn’t quite the same thing.
And, really, if you’re sending a message to “The Webcomics Review” asking me not to have opinions of major popular webcomics, perhaps it is in fact you who should hit the back button. Or not, if you don’t want to. I’d be a hypocrite to tell you not to criticize me, after all. Feel free to leave a comment on my comic over at SaffronComic.com!
It’s super good of you to promote humility and accountability like this. Quick question though, how many times has the address of your children’s school been posted on twitter because of a joke you drew?
Hi. This is Daniel Kelly of the Webcomics Review. We recently made a post where a rich and famous comic creator was criticized for making and standing behind a rape joke and selling rape joke shirts and flags.
Some found that idea disturbing.
We want to state in clear language, without ambiguity or room for interpretation: we hate doxxers, and all the doxxing they do. Seriously, though. Doxxers are really the worst.
It’s possible you read my blog, and became a doxxer as a direct result. If you’re doxxing someone right now, stop. Apologize. And leave. Go, and dox no more.
I did not hear, probably because that’s not true. Homestuck’s only even had a patreon for a month, they’re so new there isn’t even a grapthreon for them yet, but I know they were around 1200 shortly after launch, were around 1300 a week ago, and then put out an update and some patron only comics and are now pushing 1600.
Given that your source is some rando blog who by their own admission isn’t paying attention to HS, and that the only way this could possibly be true is if they randomly gained 1000 patrons one day without me noticing, I’m declaring this
By and large, webcomic creators are pretty crap at technical stuff, and there’s kind of this whole field of crazy bullshit that’s going mostly unexplored for that reason, even though when people do actually do stuff like that it’s often cool and gets people talking, like Prequel’s “Going down the stairs” sequence (and the next few pages), or the parallax effect that Carlos tested out on a page of Legend of the Hare and it was so cool he made a whole webcomic built on the idea.
One of the things about webcomics is that they can incorporate some tech and blur the line between “comic” and “movie” and “game” to create an entirely new experience that will inspire other creators and be huge and influential. I think trying to make a webcomic and focusing just on the thing you’re good at is a great way to make a webcomic that gets people talking.
Or you could develop an add-on for Comic Easel that makes having multiple comics on the same site not a complete fucking nightmare to manage, that works too.
I read Sandra and Woo for a while as a comic to talk about here, but it rarely inspired me to write anything and I dropped it from my bookmarks in one of my occasional purges. It’s a comic that has a recurring bit of “Girls lie about scandalous things in order to fluster boys”, which some people find off-putting,
and also a recurring boomerish bit of “boy I hate my wife women amiright fellas” undercurrent which some people also find off-putting.
I can see why some people are uncomfortable with a comic about horny teenagers that were actually drawn like teenagers and not 28-year-olds playing sexy teens on the CW, but honestly most of what I’ve seen is the kids insinuating something sexy might happen offscreen in an attempt to get a rise out of each other, compared to, say,
various massively popular shounen manga playing sexual assault of teenage girls for comedy. I never really got the sense that the German dude writing this comic was jerking off to it.
I mean, shit dude, Sandra and Woo could go next to LuAnn and Arlo and Zits in newspapers and no one would find it odd
Now, to be clear, “I’m 95% sure the dude who makes it isn’t a pedophile” is not a super-ringing endorsement. Sandra and Woo wouldn’t stand out next to newspaper comics on quality, either. It’s a fairly generic boomer comic from Germany that just happens to be on the internet. It’s a 5/10 that people freak out about more than is warranted.